TSS: Save State Hacking, Debug Mode, and Level Data

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TSS: Save State Hacking, Debug Mode, and Level Data

Post by bgvanbur »

I have created a Sega CD utility that allows you to modify all the save games on your real (or emulated) Sega CD. For Lunar: The Silver Star, it even has a game specific menu to enable the debug mode and to add a million silver to your save. You can also hex edit the Lunar save and in the download for the utility I provide my notes on most of the Lunar save information. Cool things you can do with the save are add/remove characters, give characters any magic, add items, change character stats, etc.

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread ... or-Sega-CD

Here is the video that shows the debug menu that caused me to go reverse engineer the game to figure out how to access it. By setting a bit in the game save using my BACK-UP SHELL it allows that save to use the debug menu.



Also, while reverse engineering the debug menu I stumbled upon the leveling tables and didn't see that anyone had a comprehension copy of all the level data so here it is:

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   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
   alex   1     75     22   12    1    8   14    3    2        0
   alex   2     80     23   13    1    8   14    3    2       15
   alex   3     90     25   14    1    9   15    3    2       30
   alex   4     96     26   15    1    9   16    3    2       55
   alex   5    108     28   16    1    9   17    3    2       80
   alex   6    120     29   17    1    9   18    3    2      115
   alex   7    130     30   19    1   10   20    3    2      150
   alex   8    133     35   20    1   10   20    3    2      200
   alex   9    136     38   21    1   11   21    3    2      250
   alex  10    140     39   22    1   12   21    3    2      325
   alex  11    160     40   23    1   13   22    3    2      400
   alex  12    162     45   24    1   13   23    3    2      550
   alex  13    165     53   25    1   14   23    3    2      700
   alex  14    171     55   27    1   15   24    3    2      900
   alex  15    180     67   28    2   16   25    3    2     1100
   alex  16    190     69   29    2   16   26    3    2     1350
   alex  17    207     73   30    2   16   27    3    2     1600
   alex  18    208     75   32    2   16   27    3    2     1900
   alex  19    210     82   33    2   17   28    3    3     2200
   alex  20    215     84   36    2   18   29    3    3     2550
   alex  21    219     93   37    2   18   30    3    3     2900
   alex  22    222     98   38    2   19   30    3    3     3300
   alex  23    230    103   39    2   20   31    3    3     3700
   alex  24    239    112   40    2   20   32    3    3     4150
   alex  25    245    120   41    3   21   32    3    3     4600
   alex  26    256    129   42    3   22   33    3    3     5100
   alex  27    274    135   43    3   23   33    3    3     5600
   alex  28    280    136   44    3   23   34    3    3     6150
   alex  29    301    142   44    3   23   35    3    3     6700
   alex  30    305    152   45    3   24   36    3    3     7350
   alex  31    320    163   47    3   24   38    3    3     8000
   alex  32    328    170   48    3   25   39    3    3     8750
   alex  33    336    180   49    4   26   40    3    3     9500
   alex  34    340    193   49    4   27   41    3    3    10500
   alex  35    349    201   50    4   28   43    3    3    11500
   alex  36    354    202   52    4   28   44    3    3    12750
   alex  37    365    222   53    5   28   45    3    3    14000
   alex  38    369    235   53    5   29   46    3    3    15500
   alex  39    374    240   55    5   30   48    3    3    17000
   alex  40    380    256   56    5   32   49    3    3    19000
   alex  41    398    260   58    5   34   50    3    3    21000
   alex  42    400    288   59    5   35   51    3    3    23500
   alex  43    411    300   61    5   38   53    3    3    26000
   alex  44    427    316   62    5   39   54    3    3    29000
   alex  45    432    329   64    6   41   55    3    3    32000
   alex  46    448    348   65    6   41   56    3    3    35500
   alex  47    450    360   67    7   42   57    3    3    39000
   alex  48    462    379   68    7   42   58    3    3    43000
   alex  49    468    391   70    7   43   58    4    3    47000
   alex  50    469    405   71    7   44   60    4    3    51500
   alex  51    470    420   73    7   46   61    4    3    56000
   alex  52    475    412   75    7   47   62    4    3    61500
   alex  53    485    436   77    8   49   63    4    3    67000
   alex  54    493    449   78    8   50   64    4    3    73500
   alex  55    506    453   81    8   51   65    4    3    80000
   alex  56    520    480   83    8   52   66    4    3    87500
   alex  57    531    500   85    9   56   68    4    4    95000
   alex  58    542    503   87    9   57   69    4    4   103500
   alex  59    558    513   89    9   58   70    4    4   112000
   alex  60    561    516   90    9   58   72    4    4   122000
   alex  61    570    521   91   10   59   75    4    4   132000
   alex  62    573    529   93   10   60   76    4    4   143500
   alex  63    576    536   96   10   60   78    4    4   155000
   alex  64    582    539   98   10   61   80    4    4   168500
   alex  65    590    541  100   10   62   81    4    4   182000
   alex  66    600    541  103   10   62   82    4    4   197500
   alex  67    603    542  105   11   63   83    4    4   213000
   alex  68    604    548  107   11   63   84    4    4   230500
   alex  69    608    554  108   11   64   88    4    4   248000
   alex  70    612    556  110   11   65   89    4    4   268000
   alex  71    618    558  114   11   66   90    4    4   288000
   alex  72    624    561  116   11   67   92    4    4   308000
   alex  73    630    568  118   12   67   93    4    4   328000
   alex  74    633    570  120   12   67   93    4    4   348000
   alex  75    640    576  121   12   67   94    4    4   368000
   alex  76    643    579  122   12   68   95    4    4   388000
   alex  77    653    582  124   12   68   96    4    4   408000
   alex  78    656    588  126   12   68   96    4    4   428000
   alex  79    658    599  130   12   69   97    5    4   448000
   alex  80    672    600  131   12   70   98    5    4   468000
   alex  81    680    621  132   12   70  100    5    4   488000
   alex  82    685    632  135   12   71  102    5    4   508000
   alex  83    698    640  137   13   72  103    5    4   528000
   alex  84    701    642  139   13   72  105    5    4   548000
   alex  85    704    658  141   13   73  106    5    4   568000
   alex  86    708    664  143   13   74  106    5    4   588000
   alex  87    710    672  145   13   75  107    5    4   608000
   alex  88    712    677  146   13   75  109    5    4   628000
   alex  89    718    682  148   14   76  112    5    4   648000
   alex  90    722    685  150   14   76  113    5    4   668000
   alex  91    732    693  152   14   77  116    5    4   688000
   alex  92    736    699  155   14   77  117    5    4   708000
   alex  93    740    713  157   14   78  118    5    4   728000
   alex  94    749    715  158   14   79  119    5    4   748000
   alex  95    758    724  160   15   79  120    5    4   768000
   alex  96    762    726  164   15   80  123    5    4   788000
   alex  97    775    732  165   15   80  125    5    4   808000
   alex  98    789    743  167   15   81  126    5    5   828000
   alex  99    800    750  169   15   81  127    5    5   848000

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
   luna   1     46     38    6    1    6   55    2    1        0
   luna   2     47     41    7    1    6   60    2    1       20
   luna   3     48     43    8    1    6   65    2    1       40
   luna   4     50     44    8    1    6   68    2    1       75
   luna   5     53     45    9    1    7   78    2    2      110
   luna   6     58     46   10    1    7   82    2    2      150
   luna   7     59     48   11    1    7   88    2    2      190
   luna   8     60     52   11    1    8   90    2    2      245
   luna   9     64     58   12    1    9   93    2    2      300
   luna  10     66     60   13    1    9   94    2    2      425
   luna  11     70     67   14    1   10   95    3    2      550
   luna  12     72     75   15    1   10   98    3    2      700
   luna  13     75     83   15    1   10  100    3    2      850
   luna  14     80     85   16    1   10  101    3    2     1050
   luna  15     84     93   17    1   11  102    3    2     1250
   luna  16     85    100   18    1   11  103    3    2     1550
   luna  17     95    105   18    1   11  105    3    2     1850
   luna  18     98    113   18    1   12  106    3    2     2225
   luna  19    103    135   19    1   12  108    3    2     2600
   luna  20    105    136   19    1   12  109    3    2     2950
   luna  21    108    138   20    2   12  110    3    2     3300
   luna  22    110    141   21    2   12  113    3    2     3800
   luna  23    114    145   23    2   12  114    3    2     4300
   luna  24    120    152   23    2   12  114    3    2     4900
   luna  25    124    155   24    2   12  115    3    2     5500
   luna  26    126    159   25    2   12  116    3    2     6250
   luna  27    130    161   26    2   13  118    3    2     7000
   luna  28    133    168   26    2   13  120    3    2     7800
   luna  29    136    170   27    2   14  122    3    2     8600
   luna  30    138    171   28    2   14  125    3    2     9350
   luna  31    146    172   30    3   15  128    3    2    10100
   luna  32    147    176   31    3   15  129    3    2    11250
   luna  33    148    178   33    3   15  130    3    2    12400
   luna  34    148    179   34    3   15  130    3    2    13700
   luna  35    149    180   35    3   16  131    3    2    15000
   luna  36    150    182   35    3   16  134    3    2    16500
   luna  37    150    183   36    3   16  135    3    2    18000
   luna  38    152    184   37    3   16  135    3    2    20250
   luna  39    154    185   38    3   16  136    3    2    22500
   luna  40    158    185   39    3   16  136    3    2    25250
   luna  41    160    187   40    3   16  138    3    2    28000
   luna  42    161    190   41    3   17  139    3    2    31000
   luna  43    162    194   41    3   17  140    3    2    34000
   luna  44    163    195   42    3   17  145    3    2    38000
   luna  45    165    199   42    3   17  148    3    2    42000
   luna  46    167    200   43    3   17  149    3    2    46000
   luna  47    168    202   45    3   18  150    3    2    50000
   luna  48    172    203   45    3   18  152    3    2    55000
   luna  49    175    205   45    4   19  155    3    2    60000
   luna  50    176    205   45    4   19  159    3    2    66000
   luna  51    178    206   46    4   19  160    3    2    72000
   luna  52    182    207   46    4   19  162    3    2    80500
   luna  53    185    209   47    4   20  163    3    2    89000
   luna  54    191    210   48    4   20  165    3    2    99500
   luna  55    193    214   48    4   21  168    3    2   110000
   luna  56    195    215   49    4   21  169    3    2   120000
   luna  57    198    215   50    4   22  170    3    2   130000
   luna  58    199    217   50    4   22  172    3    2   141000
   luna  59    204    220   51    4   23  179    4    2   152000
   luna  60    205    221   51    4   23  179    4    2   163500
   luna  61    210    225   52    4   23  180    4    2   175000
   luna  62    211    226   53    4   23  181    4    2   187500
   luna  63    212    228   53    4   24  183    4    2   200000
   luna  64    215    230   54    4   24  184    4    2   215000
   luna  65    218    234   55    4   24  185    4    2   230000
   luna  66    218    236   55    4   24  189    4    2   245000
   luna  67    219    237   56    4   25  193    4    2   260000
   luna  68    220    241   56    4   25  194    4    2   275000
   luna  69    223    246   56    4   26  195    4    2   290000
   luna  70    225    248   57    4   26  196    4    2   312500
   luna  71    226    254   58    4   26  198    4    2   335000
   luna  72    227    256   59    4   26  199    4    2   352500
   luna  73    229    258   59    5   26  201    4    2   370000
   luna  74    230    260   60    5   26  204    4    2   395000
   luna  75    232    266   60    5   26  205    4    2   420000
   luna  76    236    269   60    5   27  208    4    2   440000
   luna  77    240    273   61    5   27  209    4    2   460000
   luna  78    241    275   61    5   27  210    4    2   485000
   luna  79    242    285   61    5   27  214    4    2   510000
   luna  80    245    292   62    5   28  215    4    2   537500
   luna  81    250    298   62    5   28  216    4    2   565000
   luna  82    251    299   63    5   28  217    4    2   587500
   luna  83    254    300   63    5   28  219    4    2   610000
   luna  84    255    305   64    5   29  219    4    2   635000
   luna  85    260    307   64    5   29  220    4    2   660000
   luna  86    262    311   65    5   29  222    4    2   692500
   luna  87    263    315   66    5   30  226    4    2   725000
   luna  88    262    316   66    5   31  227    4    2   762500
   luna  89    266    317   66    5   32  228    4    2   800000
   luna  90    268    318   66    5   32  229    4    2   845000
   luna  91    271    320   67    6   32  232    4    3   890000
   luna  92    275    322   67    6   32  235    4    3   935000
   luna  93    278    325   68    6   32  238    4    3   980000
   luna  94    280    326   68    6   33  240    4    3  1030000
   luna  95    282    327   69    6   33  242    4    3  1080000
   luna  96    282    333   69    6   33  248    4    3  1130000
   luna  97    283    342   70    6   34  250    4    3  1180000
   luna  98    289    345   70    6   35  254    4    3  1240000
   luna  99    290    349   70    6   35  255    4    3  1300000

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
    mia  23     85    149   10    1   10   70    1    1     4650
    mia  24     89    159   12    1   10   71    1    1     5000
    mia  25     90    165   13    1   11   72    1    1     5500
    mia  26     91    170   14    1   11   72    1    1     6025
    mia  27     96    174   15    1   12   73    1    1     6550
    mia  28     99    181   17    1   13   75    1    1     7125
    mia  29    101    184   18    1   14   76    1    1     7700
    mia  30    103    190   18    1   15   78    1    1     8325
    mia  31    106    193   19    1   15   79    1    1     8950
    mia  32    117    195   20    1   16   79    1    1     9675
    mia  33    120    197   20    1   17   80    1    1    10400
    mia  34    122    198   21    1   17   80    1    1    11225
    mia  35    124    199   21    1   18   81    1    2    12050
    mia  36    126    204   21    1   19   81    1    2    13125
    mia  37    130    214   21    1   19   82    1    2    14200
    mia  38    135    216   22    1   20   84    1    2    15525
    mia  39    142    218   23    1   20   85    1    2    16850
    mia  40    155    219   23    1   21   86    1    2    18425
    mia  41    160    222   24    1   21   89    1    2    20000
    mia  42    161    226   24    1   21   89    1    2    22075
    mia  43    162    227   25    1   22   90    1    2    24150
    mia  44    168    231   26    1   23   92    1    2    26725
    mia  45    172    235   27    1   24   93    1    2    29300
    mia  46    173    240   28    1   24   94    1    2    32375
    mia  47    175    247   29    1   25   94    2    2    35450
    mia  48    179    251   29    1   26   95    2    2    39025
    mia  49    183    256   29    1   27   98    2    2    42600
    mia  50    185    260   30    1   28   99    2    2    46675
    mia  51    190    264   30    1   28  100    2    2    50750
    mia  52    192    271   32    1   28  101    2    2    55325
    mia  53    197    277   33    1   28  101    2    2    59900
    mia  54    201    283   34    1   29  103    2    2    65475
    mia  55    209    285   35    1   29  105    2    2    71050
    mia  56    213    290   36    1   30  106    2    2    77625
    mia  57    220    294   37    1   32  106    2    2    84200
    mia  58    228    310   38    1   32  109    2    2    91775
    mia  59    231    328   39    1   33  110    2    2    99350
    mia  60    234    330   40    1   34  111    2    2   107925
    mia  61    236    336   41    2   35  111    2    2   116500
    mia  62    239    342   42    2   35  113    2    2   126575
    mia  63    244    352   42    2   36  117    2    2   136650
    mia  64    248    359   43    2   36  117    2    2   148225
    mia  65    251    367   45    2   36  118    2    2   159800
    mia  66    255    371   46    2   36  120    2    2   173375
    mia  67    256    380   47    2   37  124    2    2   186950
    mia  68    259    388   47    2   37  125    2    2   202525
    mia  69    264    392   48    2   37  129    2    2   218100
    mia  70    268    400   49    2   38  130    2    2   235675
    mia  71    270    411   50    2   38  133    2    2   253250
    mia  72    271    416   51    3   38  133    2    2   273325
    mia  73    272    420   52    3   38  134    2    2   293400
    mia  74    275    423   52    3   38  136    2    2   313475
    mia  75    282    430   53    3   39  138    2    2   333550
    mia  76    287    433   54    3   39  138    2    2   353625
    mia  77    292    436   55    3   39  139    2    2   373700
    mia  78    293    446   56    3   39  139    2    2   393775
    mia  79    296    451   58    3   40  140    2    2   413850
    mia  80    298    453   58    3   40  142    2    2   433925
    mia  81    299    462   59    3   41  148    2    2   454000
    mia  82    301    472   60    3   41  148    2    2   474075
    mia  83    304    483   63    3   41  149    2    2   494150
    mia  84    304    485   65    4   42  152    2    2   514225
    mia  85    305    487   68    4   42  155    2    2   534300
    mia  86    312    493   68    4   43  156    2    2   554375
    mia  87    320    504   69    4   43  156    2    2   574450
    mia  88    321    509   70    4   43  159    2    2   594525
    mia  89    322    513   72    4   43  160    2    2   614600
    mia  90    328    519   73    4   43  164    2    2   634675
    mia  91    330    525   75    4   44  166    2    2   654750
    mia  92    335    533   76    4   44  168    2    2   674825
    mia  93    340    550   78    5   45  171    2    2   694900
    mia  94    341    552   78    5   45  173    2    2   714975
    mia  95    341    554   79    5   45  175    2    2   735050
    mia  96    350    559   79    5   46  175    2    2   755125
    mia  97    354    562   80    5   46  176    2    2   775200
    mia  98    359    581   82    4   47  180    2    2   795275
    mia  99    360    596   83    6   47  185    2    2   815350

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
jessica  21    153     96   33    2   16   33    3    2     3470
jessica  22    155     98   33    2   17   34    3    2     3670
jessica  23    164    100   34    2   18   35    3    2     4105
jessica  24    169    103   34    2   18   35    3    2     4540
jessica  25    179    104   35    2   18   36    3    2     5025
jessica  26    181    105   35    2   18   36    3    2     5510
jessica  27    182    107   36    3   19   37    3    2     6045
jessica  28    183    110   36    3   20   38    3    2     6580
jessica  29    186    112   37    3   21   39    3    2     7165
jessica  30    200    113   38    3   22   39    3    2     7750
jessica  31    204    117   39    4   23   40    3    2     8435
jessica  32    208    118   39    4   23   41    3    2     9120
jessica  33    211    120   40    4   24   41    3    2     9905
jessica  34    212    121   41    4   24   42    3    2    10690
jessica  35    213    123   41    4   25   42    3    2    11725
jessica  36    214    126   42    4   25   43    3    2    12760
jessica  37    235    130   42    5   25   45    3    2    14045
jessica  38    238    136   43    5   26   46    3    2    15330
jessica  39    248    142   43    5   26   48    3    2    16865
jessica  40    250    145   44    5   27   49    3    2    18400
jessica  41    251    148   45    6   27   50    3    2    20435
jessica  42    253    149   46    6   27   51    3    2    22470
jessica  43    254    150   48    6   27   52    3    2    25000
jessica  44    259    152   49    6   28   52    3    2    27540
jessica  45    260    153   50    6   28   53    3    2    30575
jessica  46    263    154   51    6   29   54    3    2    33610
jessica  47    269    155   52    7   30   55    4    2    37145
jessica  48    272    156   53    7   31   56    4    2    40680
jessica  49    278    159   55    7   32   57    4    2    44715
jessica  50    280    160   56    8   33   58    4    2    48750
jessica  51    282    162   57    8   35   58    4    2    53285
jessica  52    291    163   58    8   36   59    4    2    57820
jessica  53    293    168   59    8   37   61    4    2    63305
jessica  54    295    170   60    8   38   62    4    2    68890
jessica  55    300    172   61    9   39   63    4    2    75425
jessica  56    307    175   62    9   40   64    4    2    81960
jessica  57    313    179   63   10   41   65    4    2    89495
jessica  58    319    181   64   10   42   68    4    2    97030
jessica  59    332    186   65   10   43   69    4    2   105565
jessica  60    338    189   66   10   44   70    4    2   114100
jessica  61    342    190   67   10   44   72    4    2   124135
jessica  62    352    191   68   10   45   73    4    2   134170
jessica  63    358    192   69   11   46   75    4    2   145705
jessica  64    360    198   70   11   47   76    4    2   157240
jessica  65    364    200   72   11   47   78    4    2   170775
jessica  66    371    203   73   11   48   78    4    2   184310
jessica  67    379    206   74   12   48   79    4    3   199845
jessica  68    380    207   74   12   48   80    4    3   215380
jessica  69    381    208   75   12   49   82    4    3   232915
jessica  70    383    210   75   12   49   83    4    3   250450
jessica  71    384    215   76   12   50   86    4    3   270485
jessica  72    385    216   77   12   51   86    4    3   290520
jessica  73    386    217   78   12   52   87    4    3   310555
jessica  74    388    218   78   12   52   87    4    3   330590
jessica  75    392    219   79   12   53   88    4    3   350625
jessica  76    393    221   80   12   53   89    4    3   370660
jessica  77    394    225   81   12   54   90    4    3   390695
jessica  78    395    229   82   12   55   93    4    3   410730
jessica  79    396    230   83   12   56   95    4    3   430765
jessica  80    398    234   83   12   56   95    4    3   450800
jessica  81    406    239   84   12   57   96    4    3   470835
jessica  82    411    248   84   12   57   97    4    3   490870
jessica  83    414    250   85   12   58   98    5    3   510905
jessica  84    417    255   85   13   59   99    5    3   530940
jessica  85    420    261   86   13   60  101    5    3   550975
jessica  86    421    265   87   13   60  101    5    3   571010
jessica  87    423    270   88   13   61  102    5    3   591045
jessica  88    427    278   89   13   61  102    5    3   611080
jessica  89    430    282   90   13   62  103    5    3   631115
jessica  90    433    286   90   13   62  103    5    3   651150
jessica  91    437    289   91   13   63  103    5    3   671185
jessica  92    438    293   91   13   63  105    5    3   691220
jessica  93    450    302   92   13   64  107    5    3   711255
jessica  94    452    318   92   13   64  107    5    3   731290
jessica  95    454    328   93   13   64  108    5    3   751325
jessica  96    455    333   93   13   65  108    5    3   771360
jessica  97    458    340   94   13   65  109    5    3   791395
jessica  98    459    350   95   13   65  110    5    3   811430
jessica  99    461    360   96   13   66  110    5    3   831465

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
   nash  11    133     51   20    1    9   50    2    2      600
   nash  12    136     59   21    1    9   50    2    2      700
   nash  13    140     63   22    1   10   51    2    2      875
   nash  14    142     68   23    1   10   51    2    2     1050
   nash  15    144     70   24    1   10   52    2    2     1275
   nash  16    146     76   25    1   10   53    2    2     1500
   nash  17    150     84   25    1   11   53    2    2     1775
   nash  18    157     88   26    1   11   54    2    2     2050
   nash  19    159     92   27    1   12   54    2    2     2375
   nash  20    161     95   28    1   12   55    2    2     2700
   nash  21    169     99   28    1   13   55    2    2     3075
   nash  22    173    101   29    1   13   55    2    2     3450
   nash  23    175    104   30    2   14   56    2    2     3875
   nash  24    185    106   30    2   14   56    2    2     4300
   nash  25    186    113   31    2   15   56    2    2     4775
   nash  26    191    119   32    2   15   57    2    2     5250
   nash  27    194    120   32    2   16   57    2    2     5775
   nash  28    199    123   33    2   16   58    2    2     6300
   nash  29    205    125   33    2   17   58    2    2     6875
   nash  30    207    128   34    2   17   59    2    2     7450
   nash  31    211    129   35    2   18   60    2    2     8125
   nash  32    218    130   36    2   19   61    2    2     8800
   nash  33    219    135   38    2   20   62    2    2     9575
   nash  34    226    138   40    2   20   63    2    2    10350
   nash  35    234    142   42    2   20   64    2    2    11375
   nash  36    237    146   45    3   20   64    2    2    12400
   nash  37    240    148   47    3   20   65    2    2    13675
   nash  38    246    150   48    3   20   65    2    2    14950
   nash  39    248    152   51    3   21   66    3    2    16475
   nash  40    255    160   52    3   21   66    3    2    18000
   nash  41    264    162   53    3   22   67    3    2    20000
   nash  42    268    166   54    4   22   67    3    2    22050
   nash  43    272    168   55    4   23   68    3    2    24575
   nash  44    273    170   56    4   23   68    3    2    27100
   nash  45    275    171   57    4   24   69    3    2    30125
   nash  46    281    172   58    4   24   69    3    2    33150
   nash  47    289    174   59    4   25   70    3    2    36675
   nash  48    292    176   60    4   25   70    3    2    40200
   nash  49    296    178   61    4   26   71    3    2    44200
   nash  50    299    178   62    4   27   71    3    2    48200
   nash  51    301    183   63    4   28   72    3    2    52750
   nash  52    311    185   64    4   29   73    3    2    57300
   nash  53    321    188   65    5   30   74    3    2    62825
   nash  54    325    190   66    5   31   74    3    2    68350
   nash  55    332    193   67    5   32   75    3    2    74875
   nash  56    337    198   69    5   32   76    3    2    81400
   nash  57    344    200   70    5   33   78    3    3    88925
   nash  58    345    206   71    5   34   80    3    3    96450
   nash  59    356    210   72    5   35   82    3    3   104975
   nash  60    359    216   73    5   35   83    3    3   113500
   nash  61    366    220   75    6   36   84    3    3   118525
   nash  62    368    223   76    6   36   84    3    3   123550
   nash  63    370    226   78    6   36   85    3    3   140075
   nash  64    375    230   80    6   36   86    3    3   156600
   nash  65    381    236   81    6   36   86    3    3   170125
   nash  66    383    241   83    6   37   88    3    3   183650
   nash  67    384    243   84    7   37   90    3    3   199175
   nash  68    388    251   85    7   37   92    3    3   214700
   nash  69    396    256   89    7   37   93    3    3   232225
   nash  70    400    260   90    7   37   93    3    3   249750
   nash  71    406    265   90    7   38   94    3    3   269775
   nash  72    409    270   92    7   38   95    3    3   289800
   nash  73    410    273   93    7   39   98    3    3   309825
   nash  74    411    275   94    7   39   99    3    3   329850
   nash  75    412    279   95    7   39  100    3    3   349875
   nash  76    416    284   96    8   39  103    3    3   369900
   nash  77    418    289   98    8   40  105    3    3   389925
   nash  78    419    293   98    8   40  110    3    3   409950
   nash  79    420    295   99    8   41  113    3    3   429975
   nash  80    421    299  100    8   41  114    3    3   450000
   nash  81    428    304  101    8   41  115    3    3   470025
   nash  82    433    310  102    8   41  118    3    3   490050
   nash  83    440    315  103    8   42  119    3    3   510075
   nash  84    443    319  105    8   42  120    3    3   530100
   nash  85    444    326  109    8   43  122    3    3   550125
   nash  86    448    333  110    8   43  123    3    3   570150
   nash  87    452    342  111    9   44  126    3    3   590175
   nash  88    455    349  116    9   44  126    3    3   610200
   nash  89    457    355  117    9   45  127    3    3   630225
   nash  90    461    361  118    9   45  128    3    3   650250
   nash  91    466    370  119    9   46  130    3    4   670275
   nash  92    472    377  120    9   46  131    3    4   690300
   nash  93    477    379  122    9   46  133    3    4   710325
   nash  94    478    382  125   10   46  135    3    4   730350
   nash  95    480    386  128   10   47  137    3    4   750375
   nash  96    491    388  129   10   47  140    3    4   770400
   nash  97    496    391  130   10   48  141    3    4   790425
   nash  98    499    395  133   10   49  142    3    4   810450
   nash  99    500    405  135   10   49  142    4    4   830475

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
   kyle  25    335      0   55   22   25   12    4    2     5150
   kyle  26    338      3   56   22   25   13    4    2     5500
   kyle  27    340      8   57   22   26   13    4    2     5900
   kyle  28    346     10   58   22   26   14    4    2     6450
   kyle  29    354     13   59   23   27   15    4    2     7000
   kyle  30    359     16   60   23   28   16    4    2     7600
   kyle  31    360     19   61   24   29   17    4    2     8200
   kyle  32    372     21   62   24   30   17    4    2     8900
   kyle  33    380     25   63   25   30   18    4    2     9600
   kyle  34    382     26   64   25   30   19    4    2    10400
   kyle  35    391     29   65   26   31   20    4    2    11200
   kyle  36    394     30   66   26   31   20    4    2    12250
   kyle  37    400     33   67   26   32   20    4    2    13300
   kyle  38    405     34   68   26   33   20    4    2    14600
   kyle  39    416     37   69   27   34   21    4    2    15900
   kyle  40    419     42   70   28   34   21    4    2    17450
   kyle  41    425     43   71   28   34   21    4    2    19000
   kyle  42    431     43   72   29   35   22    4    2    21050
   kyle  43    434     44   73   29   35   23    4    2    23100
   kyle  44    436     47   74   29   36   24    4    2    25650
   kyle  45    438     48   75   29   36   26    4    2    28200
   kyle  46    439     49   75   30   37   27    4    2    31250
   kyle  47    441     54   76   30   37   28    4    2    34300
   kyle  48    449     55   77   30   38   29    4    2    37850
   kyle  49    453     56   78   31   39   30    4    2    41400
   kyle  50    456     57   78   31   40   31    4    2    45450
   kyle  51    458     59   79   32   42   33    4    2    49500
   kyle  52    461     61   80   32   43   34    4    2    54050
   kyle  53    465     62   82   33   45   35    4    2    58600
   kyle  54    468     65   82   33   47   35    4    2    64150
   kyle  55    470     68   84   34   48   36    4    2    69700
   kyle  56    472     69   85   34   48   37    4    2    76250
   kyle  57    486     70   87   35   49   38    4    2    82800
   kyle  58    489     71   88   35   49   39    4    2    90350
   kyle  59    492     72   88   36   50   40    4    2    97900
   kyle  60    499     73   89   36   51   40    4    2   106450
   kyle  61    500     73   89   37   52   41    4    2   115000
   kyle  62    511     74   90   37   53   41    4    2   125050
   kyle  63    513     75   92   38   56   41    4    2   135100
   kyle  64    516     76   91   38   56   41    4    2   146650
   kyle  65    521     79   94   39   57   42    4    2   158200
   kyle  66    522     79   95   39   58   42    4    2   171750
   kyle  67    536     80   96   39   58   42    4    2   185300
   kyle  68    538     81   97   39   59   42    4    2   200850
   kyle  69    541     82   98   40   59   43    4    2   216400
   kyle  70    541     82   99   40   60   43    4    2   233950
   kyle  71    542     83   99   41   60   44    4    2   251500
   kyle  72    549     83  101   41   61   44    4    2   271550
   kyle  73    554     84  103   41   61   45    5    2   291600
   kyle  74    556     85  104   42   62   45    5    2   311650
   kyle  75    558     86  104   42   63   46    5    2   331700
   kyle  76    561     87  105   42   64   46    5    2   351750
   kyle  77    568     89  105   42   64   47    5    2   371800
   kyle  78    570     90  106   43   65   47    5    2   391850
   kyle  79    576     91  107   43   65   48    5    2   411900
   kyle  80    577     91  109   43   66   49    5    2   431950
   kyle  81    582     92  111   43   66   49    5    2   452000
   kyle  82    588     94  112   44   67   50    5    2   472050
   kyle  83    599     95  113   44   67   50    5    3   492100
   kyle  84    610     95  113   44   68   50    5    3   512150
   kyle  85    621     96  114   44   68   51    5    3   532200
   kyle  86    632     97  115   44   69   51    5    3   552250
   kyle  87    640     98  116   45   69   51    5    3   572300
   kyle  88    642     99  116   45   69   51    5    3   592350
   kyle  89    658    100  117   45   69   52    5    3   612400
   kyle  90    666    101  118   45   70   52    5    3   632450
   kyle  91    672    102  119   46   70   52    5    3   652500
   kyle  92    675    103  120   46   71   52    5    3   672550
   kyle  93    682    105  122   47   71   53    5    3   692600
   kyle  94    685    105  122   47   72   53    5    3   712650
   kyle  95    693    106  123   47   72   53    5    3   732700
   kyle  96    695    107  124   47   73   53    5    3   752750
   kyle  97    713    108  126   48   73   53    5    3   772800
   kyle  98    718    109  127   48   74   54    5    3   792850
   kyle  99    724    110  128   48   74   55    5    3   812900

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
tempest  39    361     22   55   33   37   40    3    3    37000
tempest  40    365     25   56   34   38   43    3    3    40500
tempest  41    378     28   58   35   38   45    3    3    44000
tempest  42    380     31   59   35   39   46    3    3    51500
tempest  43    381     34   61   35   40   48    3    3    59000
tempest  44    381     38   62   35   40   49    3    3    64500
tempest  45    382     42   63   36   41   50    3    3    70000
tempest  46    390     49   64   36   41   52    3    3    78000
tempest  47    392     50   64   36   41   53    3    3    86000
tempest  48    395     53   65   37   45   52    3    3    93000
tempest  49    408     59   65   37   46   55    3    3   100000
tempest  50    412     60   66   38   46   56    3    3   110000
tempest  51    415     62   67   38   47   58    3    3   120000
tempest  52    418     65   68   38   48   58    3    3   135000
tempest  53    423     68   69   39   49   59    3    3   150000
tempest  54    425     70   70   40   49   60    3    3   175000
tempest  55    432     72   71   41   49   60    3    3   200000
tempest  56    446     72   72   41   49   62    3    3   220000
tempest  57    452     73   73   41   50   63    3    3   240000
tempest  58    458     74   74   42   50   65    3    3   260000
tempest  59    475     75   76   42   50   67    3    3   280000
tempest  60    479     76   77   42   50   68    3    3   305000
tempest  61    480     77   78   42   51   69    3    3   330000
tempest  62    483     79   79   43   51   70    3    3   355000
tempest  63    484     80   80   43   52   72    3    3   380000
tempest  64    500     82   82   43   52   72    3    3   410000
tempest  65    501     83   83   44   52   73    3    3   440000
tempest  66    503     84   84   44   53   74    3    3   470000
tempest  67    506     84   84   44   53   75    3    3   500000
tempest  68    510     84   85   44   53   75    3    3   535000
tempest  69    519     85   86   45   54   76    3    3   570000
tempest  70    523     86   87   45   54   78    3    3   620000
tempest  71    526     87   88   45   55   79    3    3   670000
tempest  72    527     87   89   45   55   79    3    3   720000
tempest  73    530     88   90   46   55   80    3    3   770000
tempest  74    536     88   91   46   56   80    3    3   835000
tempest  75    540     90   91   46   56   80    3    3   890000
tempest  76    551     92   91   46   56   83    3    3   950000
tempest  77    556     93   92   47   57   85    3    3  1010000
tempest  78    558     94   92   47   57   86    3    3  1060000
tempest  79    560     97   93   47   58   88    3    4  1110000
tempest  80    569     98   93   47   59   88    3    4  1160000
tempest  81    570    100   94   47   59   89    3    4  1210000
tempest  82    571    101   95   47   59   90    3    4  1265000
tempest  83    572    102   97   48   60   92    3    4  1320000
tempest  84    575    104   98   48   61   93    3    4  1375000
tempest  85    580    106   98   48   62   95    3    4  1430000
tempest  86    583    108   99   48   62   95    3    4  1490000
tempest  87    589    110  100   49   63   96    4    4  1550000
tempest  88    593    112  101   49   64   97    4    4  1610000
tempest  89    600    114  102   49   65  100    4    4  1670000
tempest  90    605    115  103   49   66  101    4    4  1730000
tempest  91    611    118  105   50   67  103    4    4  1790000
tempest  92    615    119  105   50   67  104    4    4  1855000
tempest  93    618    120  106   50   68  105    4    4  1920000
tempest  94    622    121  107   51   68  105    4    4  1985000
tempest  95    630    122  108   51   69  106    4    4  2050000
tempest  96    635    123  109   52   70  106    4    4  2115000
tempest  97    641    125  109   52   72  107    4    4  2180000
tempest  98    644    128  110   53   73  108    4    4  2250000
tempest  99    651    130  111   53   73  109    4    4  2320000

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
  ramus   1     90      0   15    1    3   11    2    1        0
  ramus   2     92      0   15    1    3   12    2    1       37
  ramus   3     93      0   15    1    3   13    2    1       75
  ramus   4     95      0   15    1    3   13    2    1      112
  ramus   5     96      0   16    1    4   13    2    1      150
  ramus   6     97      0   16    1    4   14    2    1      212
  ramus   7     98      0   16    1    5   14    2    1      275
  ramus   8     99      0   16    1    5   14    2    1      362
  ramus   9    101      0   17    1    6   15    2    1      450
  ramus  10    102      0   17    1    6   15    2    1      625
  ramus  11    104      0   18    1    6   16    2    1      800
  ramus  12    105      0   18    1    6   16    2    1     1075
  ramus  13    107      0   19    1    7   16    2    1     1350
  ramus  14    110      0   19    1    7   16    2    1     1625
  ramus  15    121      0   20    1    7   17    2    1     1900
  ramus  16    125      0   20    1    7   17    2    1     2325
  ramus  17    132      0   21    1    8   17    2    1     2750
  ramus  18    133      0   21    1    8   18    2    1     3125
  ramus  19    135      0   22    1    9   18    2    2     3500
  ramus  20    138      0   22    1    9   19    2    2     4000
  ramus  21    148      0   23    1    9   19    2    2     4500
  ramus  22    149      0   23    1    9   19    2    2     5125
  ramus  23    155      0   23    1    9   19    2    2     5750
  ramus  24    159      0   23    1    9   20    2    2     6375
  ramus  25    164      0   24    1   10   20    2    2     7000
  ramus  26    167      0   25    1   10   20    2    2     8000
  ramus  27    171      0   26    1   10   21    2    2     9000
  ramus  28    173      0   26    1   10   21    2    2    10000
  ramus  29    176      0   27    1   10   22    2    2    11000
  ramus  30    172      0   27    1   10   23    2    2    12250
  ramus  31    184      0   28    1   11   24    2    2    13500
  ramus  32    185      0   28    1   11   24    2    2    14750
  ramus  33    186      0   29    1   11   25    2    2    16000
  ramus  34    186      0   29    1   12   25    2    2    18000
  ramus  35    187      0   31    1   12   26    2    2    20000
  ramus  36    190      0   32    1   12   26    2    2    21750
  ramus  37    191      0   33    1   12   27    2    2    23500
  ramus  38    192      0   33    1   12   27    2    2    26750
  ramus  39    194      0   33    1   13   29    2    2    30000
  ramus  40    198      0   34    1   13   29    2    2    33000
  ramus  41    200      0   34    1   13   30    3    2    36000
  ramus  42    201      0   34    1   13   32    3    2    40500
  ramus  43    203      0   35    1   13   33    3    2    40000
  ramus  44    205      0   35    1   13   34    3    2    45000
  ramus  45    207      0   36    1   14   35    3    2    51000
  ramus  46    209      0   36    1   14   36    3    2    58000
  ramus  47    211      0   36    2   14   37    3    2    65000
  ramus  48    213      0   36    2   14   38    3    2    72500
  ramus  49    216      0   37    2   14   39    3    2    80000
  ramus  50    219      0   37    2   15   39    3    2    97500
  ramus  51    222      0   37    2   15   40    3    2   115000
  ramus  52    223      0   37    2   15   41    3    2   122500
  ramus  53    224      0   38    2   15   42    3    2   130000
  ramus  54    228      0   38    2   15   43    3    2   140000
  ramus  55    232      0   39    2   15   44    3    2   150000
  ramus  56    235      0   39    2   15   44    3    2   162500
  ramus  57    238      0   40    2   15   45    3    2   175000
  ramus  58    239      0   41    2   15   45    3    2   187500
  ramus  59    240      0   42    2   16   47    3    2   200000
  ramus  60    245      0   43    2   16   48    3    2   215000
  ramus  61    251      0   45    2   17   48    3    2   230000
  ramus  62    253      0   45    2   17   49    3    2   245000
  ramus  63    254      0   46    2   17   49    3    2   260000
  ramus  64    259      0   46    2   17   50    3    2   277500
  ramus  65    260      0   46    2   17   50    3    2   295000
  ramus  66    261      0   46    2   17   51    3    2   315000
  ramus  67    262      0   47    2   17   52    3    2   335000
  ramus  68    264      0   47    2   17   53    3    2   357500
  ramus  69    270      0   48    2   18   54    3    2   380000
  ramus  70    270      0   48    2   18   55    3    2   402500
  ramus  71    271      0   48    2   19   56    3    2   425000
  ramus  72    273      0   48    3   19   56    3    2   450000
  ramus  73    278      0   49    3   20   57    3    2   475000
  ramus  74    280      0   49    3   20   57    3    2   502500
  ramus  75    283      0   50    3   20   58    3    2   530000
  ramus  76    289      0   50    3   20   58    3    2   555000
  ramus  77    290      0   51    3   20   59    3    2   580000
  ramus  78    291      0   51    3   20   60    3    2   610000
  ramus  79    292      0   51    3   20   60    3    2   640000
  ramus  80    300      0   52    3   21   61    3    2   670000
  ramus  81    300      0   53    3   21   61    3    2   700000
  ramus  82    302      0   53    3   21   62    3    2   730000
  ramus  83    303      0   53    3   21   62    3    2   760000
  ramus  84    305      0   53    3   21   62    3    2   790000
  ramus  85    310      0   54    3   21   63    3    2   820000
  ramus  86    312      0   54    3   21   63    3    2   855000
  ramus  87    314      0   55    3   21   64    3    2   890000
  ramus  88    315      0   55    3   21   64    3    2   925000
  ramus  89    316      0   56    3   22   65    3    2   960000
  ramus  90    317      0   56    3   22   65    3    2  1000000
  ramus  91    320      0   57    3   23   66    3    2  1040000
  ramus  92    321      0   57    4   23   66    3    2  1080000
  ramus  93    322      0   58    4   23   67    3    2  1120000
  ramus  94    329      0   58    4   24   67    3    2  1160000
  ramus  95    332      0   59    4   24   68    3    2  1200000
  ramus  96    333      0   59    4   24   68    3    2  1245000
  ramus  97    333      0   60    4   24   69    3    2  1290000
  ramus  98    339      0   61    4   25   70    3    2  1345000
  ramus  99    340      0   62    4   25   70    3    2  1400000

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
  laike  95    580     40  128   92   48   24    4    4  2100000
  laike  96    582     40  128   92   49   24    4    4  2200000
  laike  97    588     40  129   92   50   24    4    4  2300000
  laike  98    592     41  130   93   51   24    4    4  2400000
  laike  99    599     41  130   93   52   24    4    4  2500000

   char lvl     hp     mp atkp defp agil anti #mov #atk      exp
ghaleon  99   1600    500  110  120   32   80    1    2  3000000
By the way this is my first time playing Lunar and almost halfway through and loving it!

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This is incredible! Please play it legitimately first, though!

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Thanks, and I am playing it without any cheats first :)

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I have most of the levelling tables compiled by hand, but I only got Luna as far as 50 because she's rather tedious to level up, and hadn't started on Ramus. (Tempest is a real pain to max out. Even Laike is less annoying.) So, thanks! :) I knew the tables must be hard-coded in because Nash's next experience levels for three or four of them is irregular mathematically in a way that suggests a typo was made in calculating them.

I'm also delighted to see from the video (which I've only watched with sound off) that the stats for the last two bosses are available. I was not looking forward to trying to figure those out from the battle itself.

I also was making notes on when dialogue changes for each NPC, so presumably the Flag menu can help with that a bit.

Etc. This looks to be a lot of fun.

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I also found a lunarninja (the one who found the debug mode initially) where he stated he figured out what most of the flags do but since he never publicly released any of the information. Hopefully all that work doesn't get lost.

http://www.gaijinworks.com/interact/sho ... r-secrets!

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Just want to say that this is a great resource. Thanks! KF
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So, last night I finally looked at the TSS character stats posted above. And... they don't match the ones I recorded. Most of them are off by one -- but not all of them. The EXP amounts are the same.

I should note that I recorded stats for most characters from about level 40 to the 90s (I haven't finished levelling up Kyle, Jessica, or Nash, but maxed out Alex, Mia, Tempest, and Laike) on the console. I later started a game on emulator to record stats for earlier levels, but since I haven't left Caldor Island in that effort, it hasn't gone too far other than getting Luna to lvl 52. While doing this (and taking screenshots of every level-up), I noticed that a couple of times there were slight discrepancies for the same level, when I reloaded -- I have a screenshot of Alex at level 5 with 106 HP and one with him at level 5 with 107 HP. The same thing happened with levels 6 and 7. Other stats were the same. I chalked it up to an emulator issue of some sort, but it seemed bizarre.

Looking at the tables quoted above, though... well, as I mentioned, there are a lot of off-by-ones. Usually (always?) it's that the tables above are one more than the ones I've recorded. And I wonder... is there an in-game operation on the tables to adjust them? I know some monster stats were apparently tweaked in localization, based on strategy guides (I typed in all those stats myself...), but I don't recall a mention of playable character stats being tweaked. It'd be an odd way to do it, seems to me, but it *might* explain the discrepancies above.

So clearly I'm now going to have to play the Japanese version and start recording stats on that. Well, I need to play it anyway.

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^ It almost sounds like there's some randomization or hidden operations for the stats, and that it's less than would happen in Fire Emblem. Maybe it all happens in the early game? Otherwise, I find it hard to imagine the difference of 1 max HP is intentional.
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There is randomization in stat increases at levsl up.
I figured this out because I need 200mp for the dragon angels fight and sometimes i get it exactly and sometimes I get to 199 and need another level.
Magic ia also random....yeah. Sometimes you get psychotron at level 26 but sometimes not til level 27.

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One thing I noticed when I was overlevelling Alex is that you can only get one new spell per level gained. So if Alex's magic doesn't get unlocked until he's at a level at which he would normally get a new spell, he won't get that new spell until the following level, rather than suddenly getting Flame and Blazing Fire and Power Litany all at once. (Or whatever the first few are; I don't have my spreadsheet in front of me.) So I wonder if getting Psychotron late could have to do with that, if Mia joins at the same level Alex is.

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Could be. Holysmith also said that the magic obtaining happened due to rng but im not sure how its been tested to be honest.

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Now that i think about it again im almost sure mia doesnt gdt a new spell on the level before psychotron on my playthroughs (regardless of psy lvl 26 or 27)

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Just as an fyi in recent testing I've noticed that magic aquiring can vary widely. Ive had alex get power litany at the first level after water dragon (i think lvl 4) and ive seen him get it the 3rd level after water dragon. So it isnt even guaranteed on next level if it doesnt pop on the first opportunity.
That can really mess your route up when banking on getting psychotron with mia later.

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Interesting. I really wish I knew what was going on internally with that.

Curious, do you also pick up wind essence for the same purpose? I hate to say how long it took me when I first played the game (in the mid-late 90s) to notice that that's what it did...

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Yeah a lot of the money etc is based around early game wind essences. Used for

Island cave
White dragon cave visit 2
Red dragon cave
Blue dragon cave (or psychotron when lucky)
And Grizmols Cave

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I've never been able to hack the save state but atm I have Alex at level 40 on one save and in the party save i have luna at 15 and Ramus at 13. Oh that data is a spoiler, but I will try nontheless. A level 99 Ramus would be interesting. His dad couldn't call him lazy anymore.

At that point it'd be unknown what amount of silver I'd have. Current I'm not sporting more than 20k i believe so a long way off to 1 million. I also need to record item drops by groups better. I am unsure of a site with detailed drops.

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I feel like if anyone has tried to get Ramus up to Lvl99, Alunissage would have tried. There's definitely been attempts to, e.g., get early non-permanent characters (like Lucia pre-curse in EB) up to a high level that way, but running into some hard game limit.
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Keighn wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:18 am A level 99 Ramus would be interesting. His dad couldn't call him lazy anymore.
"What? You say you've spent so many hours just beating up on the animals around here instead of starting that great adventure of yours? You've compounded laziness with procrastination!" Ramus's dad, possibly.
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I...have not yet worked on levelling up Ramus beyond level 35. I did get Luna to 52 though. Ramus is easier since you can wander around the Katarina Zone with him, whereas I had to level up Luna in the Lighthouse, where if you're lucky you get 20 EXP per battle. The temporary characters also need much more EXP to gain a level compared with the regular 5; at level 52, Luna needs 8500 to reach level 53, while Alex only needs 5500 and the other four are in a similar range.

In LL I only recorded him, Alex, Luna, and Nash, all up to around level 20. Oddly, while Ramus's HP caps at 85 on level 12, his other stats continue increasing, unlike in SSS where all of his stats stop increasing after level 12. Well, okay, there was no change up to level 17, after which I got bored.

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Sonic# wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:17 pm
Keighn wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 12:18 am A level 99 Ramus would be interesting. His dad couldn't call him lazy anymore.
"What? You say you've spent so many hours just beating up on the animals around here instead of starting that great adventure of yours? You've compounded laziness with procrastination!" Ramus's dad, possibly.
Poor animals. Ramus is looking like a creep and a bully or worse.

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