Blue Spire?

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:29 pm

They talk about her being a sort of "sister" to Althena. Check this interview for more information:

http://www.lunar-net.com/interviews/hasukawa.php

Edit: BTW, I like the avatar.

Reaper · Post by **Reaper** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:20 pm

I know where your coming from, I always thought Lucia was like a daughter of Althena. It just didn't make sense that the two where sisters... :shock:

Post by **Kizyr** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:22 pm

You can check the opening for the first EB novel that says a little more about Lucia in relation to the Blue Star and Lunar, but not in relation to Althena.

http://www.lunar-net.com/merchandise/novels/eb1.php
KF

MiaOne · Post by **MiaOne** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:18 pm

I'm not bashing their relationship. It was definietly better than most video game relationships. I was just sick of it by the end

And I'm a hopeless romantic and I love crap like that...so it's saying a lot if I was rolling by eyes towards the end.

But kudos to Hiro and Lucia. I hope they got it on righteous.

Althena's_Courtier · Post by **Althena's_Courtier** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:56 am

Reaper wrote:I know where your coming from, I always thought Lucia was like a daughter of Althena. It just didn't make sense that the two where sisters...

I thought they were like cousins or something...

Temzin · Post by **Temzin** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:32 pm

Yup, just like GhaleonOne and Kizyr have put it...although if you think of them as "cousins" but not in the literal sense, that seems fine, too. The Lunar 2 comic (the one in Asuka DX) reaffirms all those things, too, and Zophar repeatedly calls Lucia "Goddess" or "Goddess of the Blue Star," reaffirming one more time what these two sources said. The vibe you get from the Lunar1&2 Establishment file interviews with Shigema and co. is that they're not hiding any idea about what exactly Lucia is, they simply aren't concerned with being that exact. Playing Lunar~EB in game, Lucia gives the impression of being slightly subordinate an existence to Althena originally, but Shigema's later versions seem to place them more equally. Anyway...

Jenner · Post by **Jenner** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:11 am

Althena's_Courtier wrote: I thought they were like cousins or something...

OH SO WRONG!!
No, no, they most certaintly weren't "cousins."

>.> You haven't been informed of the Cousins theory so I shall inform you.
When anime-influenced or other european-like characters are involved in a homosexual relationship and the material is translated over to the USA the couple, almost ALWAYS, is "translated" into just being "Cousins."

a good example off the top of my head would be Sailor Nepture/Uranus.
Seen the movie Troy? Yeah, they're totally just cousins.

I know there are other examples, countless ones, but I'm not dedicated to the cause so much as milling the theory. One day I'll be able to present it better when I've got the energy to research it properly.

Until then, be assured that if Lucia and Althena were cousins there is a terribly good chance that... um...

>.> yeah...

Althena's_Courtier · Post by **Althena's_Courtier** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:07 am

GhaleonOne wrote:They talk about her being a sort of "sister" to Althena. Check this interview for more information:

http://www.lunar-net.com/interviews/hasukawa.php

Edit: BTW, I like the avatar.

arer you talking 'bout my avatar?
Jenner? Whoops. :shock:

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:45 pm

No, I was talking to netequevaris.

MiaOne · Post by **MiaOne** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:30 pm

Jenner wrote:OH SO WRONG!!
No, no, they most certaintly weren't "cousins."

>.> You haven't been informed of the Cousins theory so I shall inform you.
When anime-influenced or other european-like characters are involved in a homosexual relationship and the material is translated over to the USA the couple, almost ALWAYS, is "translated" into just being "Cousins."

a good example off the top of my head would be Sailor Nepture/Uranus.
Seen the movie Troy? Yeah, they're totally just cousins.

I know there are other examples, countless ones, but I'm not dedicated to the cause so much as milling the theory. One day I'll be able to present it better when I've got the energy to research it properly.

Until then, be assured that if Lucia and Althena were cousins there is a terribly good chance that... um...

>.> yeah...

Who woulda thunk it! It all makes sense now.

phyco126 · Post by **phyco126** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:03 pm

Say, speaking of that, has anyone tried to get to the very end of the epilog without finding everyone? I think there is supposed to be something special... or was it that you got something special if you beat it after you found all of your friends.... ah I don't remember...

Post by **Alunissage** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:33 pm

If you get everyone, the part of the ending where they're all saying goodbye to Hiro is animated. If you didn't, it's just voice, since there are many combinations of people you could have.

I keep meaning to go through the epilogue with two party members (in addition to Hiro) and then do the ending with each of the remaining two joining so I'd hear all the voice events (I think they're different from the animated cutscene), but since I lost all my EBC saves I haven't bothered. It really is about time for me to replay the game.

Jenner · Post by **Jenner** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:50 pm

MiaOne wrote:
Jenner wrote:OH SO WRONG!!
No, no, they most certaintly weren't "cousins."

>.> You haven't been informed of the Cousins theory so I shall inform you.
When anime-influenced or other european-like characters are involved in a homosexual relationship and the material is translated over to the USA the couple, almost ALWAYS, is "translated" into just being "Cousins."

a good example off the top of my head would be Sailor Nepture/Uranus.
Seen the movie Troy? Yeah, they're totally just cousins.

I know there are other examples, countless ones, but I'm not dedicated to the cause so much as milling the theory. One day I'll be able to present it better when I've got the energy to research it properly.

Until then, be assured that if Lucia and Althena were cousins there is a terribly good chance that... um...

>.> yeah...

Who woulda thunk it! It all makes sense now.

Maybe THATS why Althena left Lucia up on the Blue Star, that home wrecker.

Post by **Kizyr** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:25 pm

phyco126 wrote:Say, speaking of that, has anyone tried to get to the very end of the epilog without finding everyone? I think there is supposed to be something special... or was it that you got something special if you beat it after you found all of your friends.... ah I don't remember...

My first time through I never found Leo, and ended up beating the game without ever catching him at the top of the Mystic Ruins.

I was so shocked my second time through, when I randomly picked up some info about his whereabouts from some NPCs {^^}. KF

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:40 pm

Yeah, that happened to me in the original EB too. I was like "Woah, I can get Leo!" then I searched the land over hoping to find Ghaleon.

Alas, it wasn't to be.

Post by **Alunissage** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:57 pm

Hehe. That wouldn't have occurred to me, to look for Ghaleon.

It's the people of Takkar who talk about Leo, right? I remember in the remake that's where you get Mystere's Bromide, along with reports of a rather clumsy Zorro-type defender of justice. ^_^

Jenner · Post by **Jenner** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:59 pm

GhaleonOne wrote:Yeah, that happened to me in the original EB too. I was like "Woah, I can get Leo!" then I searched the land over hoping to find Ghaleon. Alas, it wasn't to be.

Just think if you could get him on your party in EB you coulda stole all his stuff and sold it too.

'Cause you could make'm all good and naked in EB

MiaOne · Post by **MiaOne** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:30 pm

For some reason when I first played EB I knew exactly where Leo was without even having to talk to anyone! I totally ruled.

Post by **Kizyr** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:36 am

Alunissage wrote:Hehe. That wouldn't have occurred to me, to look for Ghaleon.

It's the people of Takkar who talk about Leo, right? I remember in the remake that's where you get Mystere's Bromide, along with reports of a rather clumsy Zorro-type defender of justice. ^_^

...I don't have to go into my proof again of why Leo isn't Mystere, do I? KF

phyco126 · Post by **phyco126** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:40 am

Let me guess Kiz, Mystere is just Leo's "Cousin," right? *snickers*

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