One thing for sure about Lunar 3...

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One thing for sure about Lunar 3...

Postby SPALAX » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:05 pm

After boring myself playing Dragon Song, the sure thing is that I am not putting a finger or wasting a second on another Lunar game.

They ruined a good game with the third installment, like when Breath of Fire came out... too bad.

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Postby DevNall » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:06 pm

Heh, the third Breath of Fire was the first one I played in the significant depth, so you can imagine what sort of view I had about the series for a while..

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Re: One thing for sure about Lunar 3...

Postby Roas Atrades » Sat Dec 17, 2005 11:09 pm

SPALAX wrote:After boring myself playing Dragon Song, the sure thing is that I am not putting a finger or wasting a second on another Lunar game.

They ruined a good game with the third installment, like when Breath of Fire came out... too bad.


Technically, DS is not a third installment, considering it relays zero connections to any of the original storylines.

And what you mean with BF?? BF3 was agruably the best game of the series with its connections to the first game, the great story, the slick graphics, and the overall feel.

Now BF 4, that ruined the series, heh, with its poor plot, weak characters, and completely uncompelling overall story and theme :twisted:
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Postby Angelalex242 » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:15 am

Don't forget Dragon Quarter. Which was...messed up, but...eh. I got through it, anyway. Took willpower, though.
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Postby DevNall » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:32 am

Angelalex242 wrote:Don't forget Dragon Quarter. Which was...messed up, but...eh. I got through it, anyway. Took willpower, though.

By that point, I wasn't even going to try it unless I heard amazing reviews.
(Which I did not.)

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Postby GhaleonOne » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:25 pm

To be honest, I always thought the first one was weak and lacking in plot. It bored me, but I gave the second one a shot. The second one actually seemed better, but I never finished it. I haven't touched the series since.
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Postby Angelalex242 » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:13 pm

The first one was fine for the era it came out in. It was the peer of Final Fantasy IV.

then again, Capcom was never as good as Squaresoft.
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Postby Rune Lai » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:42 am

BoF1 was great for what it was and given the competition at the time. Even playing it on the GBA (I never played the original) I liked it better than BoF2, partially because it was more save-point friendly and partially because it's simplified story prevented me from having WTF moments. BoF2 had a more fleshed out story, which made it good when the story was good, but bad when the story didn't make sense or wasn't up to stuff.

BoF3 was a different animal, and gameplay-wise I think there were several issues that could've been handled better, but in terms of story it's my favorite. I liked that the game never became about saving the world so much as Ryu trying to find his place in the world.

They ruined a good game with the third installment, like when Breath of Fire came out... too bad.


And just to be picky, but if you consider Draon Song to be an installment of the series, then you'd also have to include Magic School, which was never brought over here (making DS the fourth game).

I think of it as more of a gaiden though since it doesn't not appear to be intended to be on the same level as TSS/SSS or EB.
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Postby Imperial Knight » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:37 am

I found BoF 1 to be a really average RPG; not bad by any means, but not that great either. I didn't really bother with the series after that, but I picked up a copy of Dragon Quarter recently because several people (whose gaming opinions I tend to agree with) have had really good things to say about it. Hopefully I'll enjoy it.

In general, a bad installment to a series won't make me completely give up on a series. I'll probably be skeptical of future releases, but I figure "never say never."

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Postby Lunar6000 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:20 am

Dont know what some people are smokin but... BOF the original was indeed the best one...

BOF3 was horrible because it was good until the ending... the ending sucked.. both of them.
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Postby Alunissage » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:39 am

Well, you see, different people have different priorities. It's really not necessary to characterize people with opinions other than yours in that way.

I've never played any of the games but have IV and Dragon Quarter unopened. Actually, I think I did read the latter's manual. All I've seen is a teeny bit of II when a friend was playing it on GBA. He showed me a sample of lousy translation and I have to say that pretty much prejudiced me against it. That and I heard about some horribly inane fetch quest. But I may get to the series someday. DQ interested me the most, in part because of how much people complained about it being different from what they were used to.

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Postby Angelalex242 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:51 am

It's different indeed. The most important difference is Dragon useage.

There's a counter for the whole game, and if it hits 100%, you die.

And all your cool powers add to the D-Counter. Poor old Ryu gets FUBAR on that score.

Then again, the Dragon is virtually a God, and you get what you pay for. It reams all opponents. Even the main bosses are no match for the Dragon.
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Postby Alunissage » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:55 am

So you have to ration out your special abilities throughout the game? That sounds like an interesting discipline, especially for someone like me who never uses magic because I might need it.

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Postby Angelalex242 » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:59 am

That's the idea, yes. If you overuse the Dragon, it's game over. And Ryu has a cool map ability called D-Dash that lets you run right by enemies...but yes, it adds to the D-counter.

So. The temptation, then, is to give into the Godpowers of the Dragon against, say, a boss you REALLY don't need the Dragon for.

And that's actually most bosses. Only a couple actually require the Dragon.
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Postby Lunar6000 » Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:44 pm

Well the game is unique in that aspect than... after all when you get the uber power you want it to work right?

Anyways I gotta buy Breath Of Fire for advance cuz it kicked ass.

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