Is there a LUNAR 3?!

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Is there ganna be a LUNAR 3?

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Is there a LUNAR 3?!

Postby Sakkkim » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:10 pm

Is there a LUNAR 3? People have been waiting for it for FIVE WHOLE YEARS?

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Postby Kizyr » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:41 pm

5?

I've been waiting for it since 1996. Likewise with most of the longtime members around. KF

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Re: Is there a LUNAR 3?!

Postby Roas Atrades » Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:52 pm

Sakkkim wrote:Is there a LUNAR 3? People have been waiting for it for FIVE WHOLE YEARS?


Heh, news flash, my friend. Lunar existed before Saturn and Playstation. Like Kiz said, many of us have been playing these games since 1993. So try over ten years since the game's conception :)

Then again, I've always been a proponent that Lunar felt complete after EB/EBC. To really keep the series going GA would have to break the mold and come up with something totally new for a Lunar 3.

Personally, if they did do Lunar 3, I've alwasy been in the camp that wanted it to be about Dyne and his adventures. I'm not a prequal fan, but this is a Lunar story that many of us want to know.
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Postby WD RPG WD » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:11 pm

I've been waiting since 1989 for part 3, beat that Kiz!

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Postby Roas Atrades » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:24 pm

WD RPG WD wrote:I've been waiting since 1989 for part 3, beat that Kiz!


??? Did you get the MegaCD import where Luna had brown hair? Because I didn't get my TSS copy til it first hit US shores in 1993.
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Postby phyco126 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:49 pm

Wait.... Luna had.... brown.... hair? *faints*
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Postby Shiva Indis » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:16 pm

Never heard of that, but she had brown eyes. Sometimes...
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Postby Roas Atrades » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:29 pm

phyco126 wrote:Wait.... Luna had.... brown.... hair? *faints*


Yeah, I once had a picture from an old old old EGM talking about MegaCD. It had a Luna with brown hair.

No lie 8)
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Postby Shiva Indis » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:29 pm

I'd love to see that. I don't suppose you could track it down and scan it...? :D
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Postby Roas Atrades » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:55 pm

Shiva Indis wrote:I'd love to see that. I don't suppose you could track it down and scan it...? :D


heh sorry, can't. 1- the page was given to me way back in 8th grade from another kid. And even if I did have it, I have no access to a scanner :(

I'm sure someone somewhere has old EGM's scanned into torrents or something. Maybe some bloodhound could track them down for us :P
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Postby phyco126 » Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:12 pm

That would be ub3r :) Brown eyes too eh? Brown hair, brown eyes... man, she went from typical anime to typical average girl in anime :P If that doesn't make since, then hah!
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Postby Rune Lai » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:43 am

My scan is crap, but I've had it tucked away for years out of my old EGM.

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Postby Roas Atrades » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:13 am

Ding!

And the lady wins a cookie! :D
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Postby phyco126 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:56 am

:shock:

I love you.... Though, now I have to admit that I am Jealous...
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Postby Shiva Indis » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:50 am

Thank you Rune, I'm glad I got to see that. :D

Wow, with that cheery expression, that round, childish face, and that hair color, Luna could easily be the heroine of a shoujo manga aimed at young teens. Even in TSS she didn't look that young (well, you could dispute that here, but generally speaking). The simple, cheerful look kind of reminds me of GameArts' Takemoto Izumi games, Yumimi Mix and Dina Airan.

BTW phyco, Luna's eyes were not consistent in TSS. In the opening and ending they're brown (notice that Alex's eyes are brown as well... this is an anomaly, assumably caused by palette constraints). There are more instances of Luna with blue eyes in TSS that there are with brown.
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Postby phyco126 » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:50 pm

Hehe, in the first screen, it looks as if Nall isn't too happy with Luna's singing :P
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Postby Alunissage » Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:45 pm

Really? I always saw it as the other way around...that Luna's eyes are brown in TSS and any instances of blue are anomalous. I'm not sure I've seen any pre-remake official (as opposed to in-game) art with blue eyes. It probably exists, but every instance I recall shows her with brown, both Kubooka and Funato art. Looking through the I+II artbook, there's not one isntance I can see of her having blue eyes -- even Dark Althena is shown with brown eyes in the concept drawing, and of course all the disc art shows brown-eyed Luna. Althena, as shown in my avatar, has blue eyes, of course, but I've never seen any other art of her until the remakes. I can't quite tell from the screenshots what color her eyes are in the EB recording, but they look quite dark, certainly not the blue of her hair.

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Postby Shiva Indis » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:58 am

I'm not at all confident about what color Luna's eyes are meant to be in TSS, but in the Burg spring and Saith dock cutscenes, as well as her text portrait, they're blue. I think that covers everything in-game except the opening, ending, and instances where her eyes are red. But as you point out, all of Kubooka's promotional art for TSS features a brown-eyed Luna. The weight of evidence tends toward brown, but I wonder if the staff didn't just change their minds in the middle... :lol:

About Althena in EB - in the pulled-out shots brown tones were used on her pupils, but in close-ups her eyes seem to be pale blue.

BTW, Isn't Lucia shown with green eyes in the Lunar 1&2 artbook, even though her eyes are consistently blue in the original EB?
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Postby Alunissage » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:26 am

Possibly, but consider that Kyle's hair is blue-green in his portrait but is pretty consistently black/gray in the rest of his artwork.

Lucia's eyes are blue-green, I'm pretty sure; certainly her remake artwork seems to show eyes that are slightly greener than her hair, and I think a NPC describes her as having seagreen eyes (the painter in Larpa, probably). In the artbook, she's shown with both blue and green eyes; of the two color drawings of her earlier, blonde design, one's with blue eyes and one with green. Her final designs also vary a bit in the blue-green range. Funato's Lunatic Parade version and similar show her with out-and-out green eyes, but then, Jean has rather muddy-green hair in those comics (and, by contrast, is shown with almost teal hair in her own design pages). So I would say it's not so much that Lucia's eyes are inconsistent as that it's a bit of a palette limitation; most of those colored drawings are with markers and they're not really the best for coming up with ultimate color schemes. (For that matter, some of the drawings of Alex show the same grayed bluish color, and his eyes are the one pair in all of the character designs whose color is clearly defined in text in-game.) For the actual animations in EB, of course, a color had to be selected and I'd guess that palette limitations had something to do with it; the green of the crystal would have been too green.

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Postby Shiva Indis » Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:27 am

That is a good point; there are a lot of inconsistencies in the old portraits. Ramus's hair is blue-black in his. That strengthens the case of the brown-eyed Luna.

I agree with you about Lucia - if her eyes are the same color as her hair, that saves 2 or 3 colors on the palette, and Lunar 2 usually holds to under 30 colors per frame (which is more efficient than Lunar 1 in some instances). The old Lucia sketches demonstrate that there was an intent to make her eyes a greener shade (it is rather yellowish in the artbook sketches, isn't it?), but the staff decided to make a change. Since the remake staff didn't have to control color usage so closely, they went ahead with the green eyes.
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