Disturbing news on so many levels
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Well, I think what you have to take into account too is the fact that the fifth grade kids are going into middle school. And we all know that middle school is just a cesspool/holding tank for kids to develop and sort out their horomones until they get to high school. I HATED middle school with a passion, by that time all the silly little preteens were just so obnoxious and corrupt, there were days when I purposely missed school because I didn't want to be around them. It was like once we hit the sixth grade, it was okay to cuss, cool in fact because now we were SOOOO much more mature than the "little fifth graders" in elementary school. And it was even worse in seventh grade, because all the teasing and being "cool" was more centered around sexuality.
I was called a slut, lesbian, b*tch and other obscenities a countless number of times for honestly no reason at all. I was terribly shy in middle school, because I was so afraid of being judged by others and being teased like that. The peer pressure was so intense, I was literally frightened to get up in the cafeteria and walk all the way to the trash can to throw my lunch away because I felt that everyone in the room was staring at me and judging me. I was helplessly paranoid. It's a good thing Eternal Blue Complete came out that year! Lunar was my only comfort. ^_^ I'd stay up night after night playing that game when I got it for my birthday, and if I felt uncomfortable in school, I'd just start drawing the characters lol. (I think part of the reason why I'm so stuck on Nall is because he and Ghaleon were the only familiar faces in EBC from the previous game. I felt like I had been reunited with old friends. They were my support! ^^; ) It wasn't until the end of my 8th grade year did things start ironing out and kids began finding their own morals, values and sense of individuality. People started splitting into the more mature group that realized being cool was being yourself, and the immature group that still found it cool to be "ganstah" and have "b*tches and hoes". xD
Anyway, I digress. ^^;
My point is, horomones really start running high and crazy around that time. I wouldn't be surprised if the kids did it to be cool in front of their peers, or to maybe gain some recognition or popularity among the high school kids who were occupying the same building. Perhaps it was the older students' influence on the kids that led them to such an act? Something tells me the high school and the middle school students in the same building probably aren't too cautious of how they act around the the elementary kids. Also, we have to remember that this is just one fifth grade classroom. We can't judge the rest of the world's fifth grade population on them lol. While I know there are other classrooms similar in vulgarity, I know that there are still classrooms with good kids in them.
Until they reach middle school that is. xD
I was called a slut, lesbian, b*tch and other obscenities a countless number of times for honestly no reason at all. I was terribly shy in middle school, because I was so afraid of being judged by others and being teased like that. The peer pressure was so intense, I was literally frightened to get up in the cafeteria and walk all the way to the trash can to throw my lunch away because I felt that everyone in the room was staring at me and judging me. I was helplessly paranoid. It's a good thing Eternal Blue Complete came out that year! Lunar was my only comfort. ^_^ I'd stay up night after night playing that game when I got it for my birthday, and if I felt uncomfortable in school, I'd just start drawing the characters lol. (I think part of the reason why I'm so stuck on Nall is because he and Ghaleon were the only familiar faces in EBC from the previous game. I felt like I had been reunited with old friends. They were my support! ^^; ) It wasn't until the end of my 8th grade year did things start ironing out and kids began finding their own morals, values and sense of individuality. People started splitting into the more mature group that realized being cool was being yourself, and the immature group that still found it cool to be "ganstah" and have "b*tches and hoes". xD
Anyway, I digress. ^^;
My point is, horomones really start running high and crazy around that time. I wouldn't be surprised if the kids did it to be cool in front of their peers, or to maybe gain some recognition or popularity among the high school kids who were occupying the same building. Perhaps it was the older students' influence on the kids that led them to such an act? Something tells me the high school and the middle school students in the same building probably aren't too cautious of how they act around the the elementary kids. Also, we have to remember that this is just one fifth grade classroom. We can't judge the rest of the world's fifth grade population on them lol. While I know there are other classrooms similar in vulgarity, I know that there are still classrooms with good kids in them.
Until they reach middle school that is. xD
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A generation raised on Sex in the City, Desperate Housewives, Maxim Magazine, Wedding Crashers, Cosmopolitan and the wretched list goes on, can we expect much else. Since this however is in New Orleans, or the surrounding area, I definitely have other cultural phenomenon that I believe are responsible but that's beside the point.
Commercialism, objectification of both women and men, the "heroes" of modern culture a especially the parents are all responsible for this.
There is no way that a 12 year old will have sex in a school classroom with oither students watching and that behavior has never manifested itself in an at-home setting.
Ugh, it's nauseating.
Commercialism, objectification of both women and men, the "heroes" of modern culture a especially the parents are all responsible for this.
There is no way that a 12 year old will have sex in a school classroom with oither students watching and that behavior has never manifested itself in an at-home setting.
Ugh, it's nauseating.
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Wow Lunartic, you went through the exact same thing I did in middle school. I HATED middle school for those very reasons. I was also painfully shy at that point, and the fact that I was really scrawny back then didn't help either. And with guys, there were always 3-4 guys that really zoned in on your if they smelled fear. I had the same paranoia's as well in middle school. Fearful as hell of anything, from the same thing you mentioned (getting up to throw away my lunch because I thought everyone was staring at me and judging me) to just being scared to death that I wouldn't find someone to sit with at lunch. In fact, I would sit with those few guys that would pick on me, just to have someone to sit with. Most of my friends always had different lunch blocks. 7th and 8th grade were horrible. High school was much better. My freshman year was better, but my sophomore year, I went from being 5'2" to 6'0" over the summer, and those same kids that used to pick on me in high school were now the losers and kids that turned all dark and depressing.
And it was also during those times that I got into games like Lunar, though Lunar 2 didn't come out until a little later after all that. Though really, it's always been soccer that's lifted my confidence. And even though high school was better than middle school, college was 10x better than either ever was. College was by far my favorite school time, and I really miss it now that I've graduated.
And it was also during those times that I got into games like Lunar, though Lunar 2 didn't come out until a little later after all that. Though really, it's always been soccer that's lifted my confidence. And even though high school was better than middle school, college was 10x better than either ever was. College was by far my favorite school time, and I really miss it now that I've graduated.
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Yeah, middle school was rough for pretty much everyone. That's around the age people first start really being aware of the social hierarchy around them and behaving accordingly. And the hormones start kicking in, which is a nightmare for everyone (even those that LOOKED like they'd lucked out on the hormones end... trust me, they were as messed up in the head as anyone else, probably moreso).
But yeah, group dynamics can be a scary thing.
But yeah, group dynamics can be a scary thing.
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Middle School wasn't exactly the same for me. In Middle School I started to discover who it was that I was as a person. My values and ideals started to surface in a very primitive way, and I was still immature. At that time, I had been a very angry person, and I didn't know how to deal with it. My Mother had been thrown out of my family because she had a huge drinking problem, and then attempted suicide in front of me a few years prior. Now, I had some time to get over it, but I never really did. I thought I had, but all of those feelings harbored in hate. I became an antagonist towards everyone, and not just a specific group of people. I didn't like anything or anyone. I was, however, shy towards girls, and I had never thought about engaging in sexual activity at the time. A lot of people started running wild and having some form of sex at that time, whether they went all the way or not. Most all of them were doing SOMETHING. Eventually, I met this girl that seemed to be as troubled as me, but I later found out that she's a fake and does it all for attention. She has had a troubled life, but she is a moron. She was actually a pretty bad girl, and while she hadn't lost her virginity, she had been doing other "things" which you can all probably figure out. She was, and is a moron though. Now, I was 13 at the time that I met her, so it was at the end of 7th grade. When 8th grade hit, I started to be around her a lot more, and we started fooling around a bit, but I never "went all the way". I was a lot smarter than that. I really didn't want to screw my life up. Eventually, I got away from her because I realized what she was really about and she became a druggie. I hit the road and stopped talking to her. I've always been shy to girls, in general. I'm not the most attractive person in my eyes, and I've always had bad luck with girls. They seem to screw me over left and right, so I don't date very much. Most everyone at school feels like they "have" to have sex, and they're all doing it left and right. Now, I'm not innocent, because I had sex my Freshman year...but that's the only time, really. I really see everyone else's point of view, though. So many kids these days are just having sex everywhere, and they don't really KNOW what it is they might be doing. They just know that it feels good. Cases like this news report reveal that it's getting worse, and at a rapid rate... I just wish that we had some sort of way to teach kids at an earlier age NOT to. The problem is, as stated earlier by someone, that because they're told not to do something, they do it. Sex is a big thing because it's viewed as such a bad thing to do. This makes the mall want to do it.
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IF you lived in my town, you'd know that my peers actually ARE. This is a small town, where I know everything about everyone else and vice-versa. I know you think I might just be "thinking" that, but I know they are. Lots of them get caught all the time.ilovemyguitar wrote:Just a word of advice: In high school, everyone thinks everyone else is having massive amounts of sex. Your peers really aren't as sexually active as you think they are.
It may be messed up for me to laugh at that fact, but I can only imagine what they say when they get caught.
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I'm speaking in a more general sense, and I don't literally mean everyone. There are specific people that I know are super active, and there just happens to be a pretty large number of them. I know tons of people that aren't like that, as well.ilovemyguitar wrote:I grew up in a small town. And yeah, sex amongst teenagers happens. But I guarantee that there's a lot more kids not having sex than those that are.
It's easy for a few incidents to be blown up into what is perceived as what everybody is doing.
To me, I don't think sex should be viewed as a BAD thing, but I feel people should be much more responsible at a younger age. It's ridiculous how care-free they are about it.
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Well, you reap what you sow. In this day and age I don't think anyone isn't aware of the very real threats of teenage pregnancy and the spread of disease.
And as for being careless with sex, it's not just a problem with teenagers. I believe it's much worse with college students and 20-somethings who are leaving the nest and experiencing true freedom for the first time.
And as for being careless with sex, it's not just a problem with teenagers. I believe it's much worse with college students and 20-somethings who are leaving the nest and experiencing true freedom for the first time.
And this is a good opportunity for me to point out Christian theology on sexuality. Ask most folks the question, "Do Christians think that sex is good or bad?", and the answer you'll get is "Christians?! They think it's bad, of course!"DragonmasterAndy wrote:To me, I don't think sex should be viewed as a BAD thing, but I feel people should be much more responsible at a younger age. It's ridiculous how care-free they are about it.
That is, however, the exact opposite of Christian theology. Christians think that sex is sacred and therefore should only be between a husband and his wife. It is the physical representation of the vows of unity spoken during a wedding ceremony. Christians don't think that sex is bad; Christians think that sex is good and they object to how it has been cheapened by society.
Unfortunately, anyone who speaks in this manner in modern times is labelled a religious fanatic. We can thank the 'sexual revolution' for that.
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Well, that's the thing. They all know the dangers but they go "Oh, it'll never happen to me"....
They think that they're invincible.
Oh, and about the Christian thing, I know! I was raised Christian, although I have drifted away from it for a long time. It's viewed as sacred, and not to be abused. I've never been told it was a "bad" thing, even in a church.
They think that they're invincible.
Oh, and about the Christian thing, I know! I was raised Christian, although I have drifted away from it for a long time. It's viewed as sacred, and not to be abused. I've never been told it was a "bad" thing, even in a church.
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You know, I recently took a part time job singing in a church choir, and sitting there Sunday mornings and listening to the sermons is giving me some new perspective on Christianity.
I'm finding that although I don't agree with certain supernatural aspects of the religion, I'm enjoying hearing the principles behind it all. I guess what I'm trying to say is that while I don't believe in Christianity as a religion, I agree with it as a philosophy.
I'm finding that although I don't agree with certain supernatural aspects of the religion, I'm enjoying hearing the principles behind it all. I guess what I'm trying to say is that while I don't believe in Christianity as a religion, I agree with it as a philosophy.
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Awww LuNaRtIc... middle school was like that for me. Actually, 4th and 5th grade sucked, middle school was absolute hell, but high school was very so much better. I miss high school actually, I occasionally have dreams that I go back.
As for the comment by JWL about waiting for marriage, I disagree. However, I do believe that casual sex shouldn't happen, rather one should be sure about their partner and the length of time they are in a relationship at least.
As for the comment by JWL about waiting for marriage, I disagree. However, I do believe that casual sex shouldn't happen, rather one should be sure about their partner and the length of time they are in a relationship at least.
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