Judge bans use of the word "rape" in a rape trial

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Judge bans use of the word "rape" in a rape trial

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http://slate.com/id/2168758/
http://www.journalstar.com/articles/200 ... 275420.txt

This started some time ago, but the second trial just happened today (I think) and has already been declared a mistrial because the publicity might prejudice the jury.

And people wonder why so many rape victims don't report it. :roll:
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I don't understand. They wish to provide a neutral picture to the jury, but shouldn't it be enough to explain to them the difference between a description of the crime and a claim? They should be able to discriminate that.

Though... I would think that the victim's claim would have some weight. After all, she is repeating the reason why they are prosecuting. The details are useless without the claims.
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This just in, judge bans the word murder in favor of "Unwanted Discontinuance of Organic Existence".

While I do have a problem with the stacked deck against men in most rape cases, this action by the judge is ridiculous. It should be up to the posecuter and defense attorneys to explain the nature of the claims, and explain that words such as "victim" imply a crime was done to them, and not that the accused is actually guilty.

But, on the other hand so many jurors are 9 to 5 middle class knuckleheads. I guess you really can't expect a lot of high school graduate minimum wagers to understand the subtleties of semantics and arguement.
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DeathBeforeDenial wrote: But, on the other hand so many jurors are 9 to 5 middle class knuckleheads. I guess you really can't expect a lot of high school graduate minimum wagers to understand the subtleties of semantics and arguement.
Hear hear! Best example of this I can think of was when a former co-worker of mine was on jury duty for a civil case involving someone getting hurt in a car accident. Now, note that the victim wasn't wearing her seatbelt, although the accident was in fact the defendant's fault.

Anyway, my co-worker, who was a pretty smart guy by all accounts, recounted the story of another juror who wanted to award the victim $10 million or something ridiculous like that. When asked why, she stated, "Because I think she deserves $10 million." No valid reasoning or anything else -- just that she felt like she deserved that money. My co-worker, on the other hand, felt like at most she only deserved medical expenses and lost wages, especially since her injuries were exacerbated by not wearing a seat belt.

In a happy ending, my co-worker managed to convince the jurors that she was only entitled to medical expenses and lost wages, which were considerably less than the $10 million that stupid lady wanted to give. Unfortunately, not enough juries have smart jurors like him on them. :(
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Hmmm. Yeah that sucks, it really does. I wonder, does this mean (and I truely wouldn't doubt that this may eventually happen) that judges will start to ban DNA tests because it'll make the jurors more partial to the tests.
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