What's your favorite Lunar game?

AlexHiro4 · Post by **AlexHiro4** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:01 pm

I know some of these are remakes, but I still wanted to include all versions in this poll. My personal favorite is Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete. It was the first game I played in the Lunar series, so I guess it has sentimental value to me.

Post by **Kizyr** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:12 pm

It's a toss-up between Eternal Blue and the remake. I really enjoyed both, and there are a handful of things in one version or the other that I really like. I ended up choosing the remake, since I think the characterization is a bit more fleshed out, and there are more really great scenes than what was removed (e.g., the flashbacks between Ronfar and Mauri).

Also, the extra dungeons in the Epilogue, particularly in the Playstation version, were a whole lot of fun. KF

AlexHiro4 · Post by **AlexHiro4** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:34 pm

Kizyr wrote:Also, the extra dungeons in the Epilogue, particularly in the Playstation version, were a whole lot of fun. KF

I've never played the Sega CD version of Eternal Blue. Did it not have an epilogue?

Dark_Fairy · Post by **Dark_Fairy** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:37 pm

I went with EBC. It was my first Lunar and I still think its the greatest one too.

ilovemyguitar · Post by **ilovemyguitar** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:14 pm

AlexHiro4 wrote:
Kizyr wrote:Also, the extra dungeons in the Epilogue, particularly in the Playstation version, were a whole lot of fun. KF
I've never played the Sega CD version of Eternal Blue. Did it not have an epilogue?

The Sega CD version has an Epilogue, but it doesn't have as many optional dungeons. It only has Dragon's Nest and Lion Head, and you didn't even have to wait until the Epilogue to access them (though there is better gear in both of them in the Epilogue if you raid them during the main game first).

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:05 am

The Sega CD version has an Epilogue, but it doesn't have as many optional dungeons. It only has Dragon's Nest and Lion Head, and you didn't even have to wait until the Epilogue to access them (though there is better gear in both of them in the Epilogue if you raid them during the main game first).

Though it does have the dungeon near the White Dragon Cave that isn't in the remake. I was always disappointed in that dungeon's removal. The Sunken Tower. I always thought that was a prime location for the Dark Scimitar back in the day. With all those "Secret Room" area's.

Post by **Kizyr** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:45 am

GhaleonOne wrote:Though it does have the dungeon near the White Dragon Cave that isn't in the remake. I was always disappointed in that dungeon's removal. The Sunken Tower. I always thought that was a prime location for the Dark Scimitar back in the day. With all those "Secret Room" area's.

I think it's because the Iron Scimitar was in that same dungeon, so a lot of people got confused.

Now, if you left that same chest unopened, then returned to open it after defeating the Star Sentry on the bottom floor, it would contain the Dark Scimitar. KF

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:25 am

Well, I just always thought the fact that you could walk through some of the walls made me think the Dark Scimitar would be held in something like that.

Benevolent_Ghaleon · Post by **Benevolent_Ghaleon** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:39 am

I love TSS, but i hate the "back then" problems. I can't remember which, but i was in a dungeon wandering around for nearly an hour before i accidentally walked through the wall at the bottom of the screen. There was nothing to give me the slightest inclination that i'd be able to do that.

Hirox · Post by **Hirox** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:19 pm

I went SSSC because it was my first real rpg. I got it in 6th grade and fell in love...I borrowed it from a friend because he was on the 2nd disc and within two days I was like can I borrow the 2nd disc. I was hooked. I ended up buying it from him and then bought a new copy later on.

Post by **Kizyr** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:14 pm

Benevolent_Ghaleon wrote:I love TSS, but i hate the "back then" problems. I can't remember which, but i was in a dungeon wandering around for nearly an hour before i accidentally walked through the wall at the bottom of the screen. There was nothing to give me the slightest inclination that i'd be able to do that.

Zoc's Cave on Lann Island.

It gets everybody... KF

Post by **Alunissage** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:28 pm

Well, there is a doorway there. You just can't see it until the stuff below it has scrolled onscreen, which is usually after you've gone through it. But I think you can see bits of the passages below before then, suggesting that there has to be a way to get there. It's not like, say, walking through walls in Zelda 1's second quest.

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:03 am

TSS had a lot of weird stuff like that. It would take me days to get past the Weird Woods because I couldn't trigger the right event by attempting to sell the diamond. There's lots of "trigger events" in TSS that can be fairly annoying if you don't remember them.

Benevolent_Ghaleon · Post by **Benevolent_Ghaleon** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:44 am

We need a nice combination of TSS and SSSC. Mix the soundtracks appropriately (which would leave us wondering which Meribia to use...i'm leaning TSS) and use the better sprites.

Some things in TSS were just plain better. The way you become a dragonmaster, for instance. the size of the game. although, without random battles, the overworld might as well be small. and i loved SSSC not having randoms.

One thing that always bugged me is the sprites hair not matching the anime pics. seriously, are people retarded? how is that hard to not get or at least very close?

AlexHiro4 · Post by **AlexHiro4** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:28 pm

You know, you guys speaking so highly about TSS and EB makes me want to blow more money on a Sega CD and copies of both of those games. I'm already working on Zelda Twilight Princess, Final Fantasy 6 Advance, Lunar DS, and I'm about to start Magical School Lunar. What are a couple more games? Lol. Seriously though, are the Sega CD versions different enough from the "Complete" versions that it would be worth my time and money to buy them?

Post by **Sonic#** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:56 pm

I've just started Lunar TSS (I'm in the White Dragon Cave), and I have to say, I've already noticed quite a few differences. Finally what Alunissage said about the temple styles being different makes sense. The overworld reminds me most of Phantasy Star, though I'm unsure why.

And as for getting a Sega CD, you don't have to do that unless you simply must play it on a TV with a genesis controller. The emulator I'm using works fine (Gens) runs fine, and I can play it off of the CD.

Post by **Kizyr** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:04 pm

AlexHiro4 wrote:You know, you guys speaking so highly about TSS and EB makes me want to blow more money on a Sega CD and copies of both of those games. I'm already working on Zelda Twilight Princess, Final Fantasy 6 Advance, Lunar DS, and I'm about to start Magical School Lunar. What are a couple more games? Lol. Seriously though, are the Sega CD versions different enough from the "Complete" versions that it would be worth my time and money to buy them?

The games are worth it, definitely.

But, the Sega CD itself isn't a necessity. I recommend using Gens+ (Gens-Plus). I even have a working Sega CD, but the thing is so bulky that I don't bother connecting it, and the emulator works juts as smoothly (and it has a turbo button, and it lets you take screenshots). KF

Post by **Sonic#** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:09 pm

Dumb question Kizyr... where's the turbo button? I love going fast through tedious moments. ^^;;;

Post by **Kizyr** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:45 pm

Sonic# wrote:Dumb question Kizyr... where's the turbo button? I love going fast through tedious moments. ^^;;;

There's not a quick turbo button on Gens, but only in Gens-Plus (which I really recommend).

The Gens-Plus hotkey for turbo is Backspace. (And for screenshots, it's Shift+Backspace.)

Though, I use E-Speaking to issue voice commands to hit those keys, so I don't have to reach up to the keyboard to screenshot or use turbo. But, that's optional. KF

Post by **GhaleonOne** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:28 am

Actually, is there a Sega CD emulator that takes video yet? I thought there was, but wasn't sure. I might do a replay of the SCD games over the summer to get video's from the games for the site if I can find a way to pull it off.

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